"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me"
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"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me."
I quote the researcher and compiler of this quite extraordinary piece of research. And it is, as anybody who has ever undertaken such a task would readily agree, not least me. I do know the time and effort that goes into projects such as this. So to researcher and compiler, Maren, from The Netherlands, a more than well deserved tip of the hat.
"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me." I know the feeling well, only with me it is the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't and the "Curtains" that have been both open, closed, and depending on which McCann version of events you read, flapping in the wind; or not. (The Window: Kate McCann's Red Herring)
I won't take up much more of your time, but I have to reiterate a question that I have asked on more than a few previous occasions. (Bottom of page)
Had the McCanns shall we say, been suspected of robbing a Post Office, and given such contradictory testaments, as we know them to have done; just how far do you think they would have got?
Testaments, not just contradictory, but on many occasions, diametrically opposite to what had been uttered previously by this scurrilous pair.
Conflicting testaments, not just overlooked by the police, I have to say, but totally ignored. And one cannot help but ask the question, why? It is after all, the fate of a three year old we are talking about here, not the unauthorised withdrawal of a few money tokens, from our aforementioned Post Office.
What we must never loose sight of, are the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't. The cornerstone on which the McCann's built their argument for "stranger abduction" was the jemmied shutters. No jemmied shutters, no abduction. It's that simple.
Compiled by Maren, The Netherlands
I quote the researcher and compiler of this quite extraordinary piece of research. And it is, as anybody who has ever undertaken such a task would readily agree, not least me. I do know the time and effort that goes into projects such as this. So to researcher and compiler, Maren, from The Netherlands, a more than well deserved tip of the hat.
"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me." I know the feeling well, only with me it is the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't and the "Curtains" that have been both open, closed, and depending on which McCann version of events you read, flapping in the wind; or not. (The Window: Kate McCann's Red Herring)
I won't take up much more of your time, but I have to reiterate a question that I have asked on more than a few previous occasions. (Bottom of page)
Had the McCanns shall we say, been suspected of robbing a Post Office, and given such contradictory testaments, as we know them to have done; just how far do you think they would have got?
Testaments, not just contradictory, but on many occasions, diametrically opposite to what had been uttered previously by this scurrilous pair.
Conflicting testaments, not just overlooked by the police, I have to say, but totally ignored. And one cannot help but ask the question, why? It is after all, the fate of a three year old we are talking about here, not the unauthorised withdrawal of a few money tokens, from our aforementioned Post Office.
What we must never loose sight of, are the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't. The cornerstone on which the McCann's built their argument for "stranger abduction" was the jemmied shutters. No jemmied shutters, no abduction. It's that simple.
Introduction
May 3/4, 2007. It starts with white pyjamas.
Kate and Gerry McCann called family and friends.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id28.html
October 14, 2013. It ends with long-sleeved white pyjamas,
as witnessed by Aoife Smith and which can be seen in BBC1 reconstruction, October 14, 2013.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)
In the meantime, for more than six years, the world is overdosed and brainwashed with Eeyore’s white bottoms with a floral pattern and a frill at the end, and a short-sleeved pink top. Backed up by Jane Tanner’s sighting, as far as a man carrying a child and the pyjama bottoms is concerned.
It is almost as if we had to look for Eeyore pyjamas instead of a real, living and findable little girl.
http://gerrymccannsblogs.info/2009/03/message-from-gerry-and-kate-2/
Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
Next comments: a sort of pyjamas history.
May 3, 2007
The telephone rang at around 11pm [03 May] at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'
...the little girl they had left asleep in her white pyjamas, had disappeared.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/05/world.sandralaville#article_continue
May 4, 2007
Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeleine had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."
Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said ...
Ms Renwick described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old". Madeline was said to have been wearing white pyjamas when she went missing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver
May 4, 2007, at 11.15am
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann
At the time of her disappearance she was wearing pyjamas, the trousers were white with a floral pattern, and the short-sleeved top was predominantly pink and there was a blue and grey figure of a donkey on the front, with the inscription "Eeyore".
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm
May 4, 2007, at 11.30am
Witness statement of Jane Michelle Tanner
About the child whom appeared to be sleeping, she only saw her legs. The child appeared to be older than a baby. She was barefoot and was wearing what appeared to be cotton pyjamas of a light colour (possibly white or light pink). She is not certain, but has the impression a design on the pyjamas, possibly a floral pattern, but she is not certain.
As regards these details, she does not know what Madeleine was wearing at the moment of her disappearance, because she did not talk to anyone about this. As she concerns the man she saw, she only spoke to Gerald about this, not entering into details, and to the police.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER.htm
May 4, 2007, 12:01AM BST
The Telegraph publishes first report of Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550571/Three-year-old-feared-abducted-in-Portugal.html
May 4, at 14.20am
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy
At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing pyjamas with white bottoms with a floral pattern. The short-sleeved top, mainly pink with a blue-grey figure of a donkey bearing the inscription, "EEYORE", an inscription which is also on one of the trouser legs. The pyjamas are "Marks and Spencer" brand.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm
May 7, 2007
BBC News
About 50 volunteers have been helping to search the area for signs of the girl, including the clothes she was wearing when she vanished.
Her family confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6631255.stm
May 8, 2007
The direct appeal was the idea of Mrs McCann and her husband, Gerry, rather than of the Portuguese police. The couple also released a description of the pyjamas Madeleine had been wearing when she was taken as her parents dined at a nearby tapas bar. In contrast to normal British police procedure, Portuguese officers did not issue a description of Madeleine's clothing.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/08/ukcrime.madeleinemccann
May 8, 2007
BBC News
Madeleine's family have confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore when she disappeared.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6635463.stm
May 9, 2007
She was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Eeyore on it when she vanished.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453659/British-paedophile-links-investigated-Madeleine-hunt.html
May 10, 2007
BBC news
Kevin Bakhurst
We passed on the accurate details of Madeleine's pyjamas, at the family's request, correcting the police's [?] initial description.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/05/avoiding_intrusion.html
May 10, 2007
Items of clothing found locally did not belong to Madeleine, he said. A picture of the pyjamas she was wearing when she vanished has been released.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6644615.stm
May 10, 2007
Some volunteer search teams had been operating under the assumption that Madeleine was wearing white pyjamas, when they were in fact a pink t-shirt with the character Eeyore and white trousers with a small floral pattern.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454029/Search-Madeleine--police-release-pyjamas-wearing.html
May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann,
Only about 01h00 on 4 May 2007 did he learn through RUSSELL that his companion, JANE, at 21h10, could have seen an individual crossing the top of the road with a child in his arms, that may or may not have been his daughter MADELEINE. Asked, he relates that he does not recall to have described exactly the type of pyjamas (colour, designs, etc.) that MADELEINE had worn at the time she disappeared.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Jane M. Tanner
Subsequently, she had no doubts that it could have been MBM because, through conversations with Fiona Payne in which Fiona Payne described the pyjamas that MBM had worn that night, which coincided with those she had seen. Questioned why she had not commented to KH [Kate Healy] what she had seen that night, namely that she had seen a male individual who carried a child with pink pyjamas, she relates that she always avoided making this comment to the McCanns so as not to torture them more in their suffering.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm
May 15, 2007
"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?' But she is too young to understand. And how do you explain?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/05/14/1178995077373.html?page=3
May 17, 2007
Many toys have been tied to the railings of the war memorial, including characters from Winnie the Pooh, as Madeleine was wearing Eeyore pyjamas when she disappeared.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/image_galleries/madeleine_mccann_rothley_gallery.shtml?5
May 26, 2007
Witness Aoife Smith
She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual.
There was nothing covering the child, a comforter/blanket or any other piece of clothing but she only saw her back.
She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas.
She also had a light top, with long sleeves.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
June 4, 2007
New Madeleine TV appeal BBC News video
BBC Crimewatch
Recorded in Praia da Luz: 04 June 2007, Televised: 05 June 2007 Transcript by Nigel Moore
Kate McCann: "These are virtually identical to the pyjamas that Madeleine was wearing when she was taken. As you can see it's a pink top, errm... with gathered short sleeves and it has a picture of Eeyore on the front. Errr, the bottoms are white with a... a floral design and have an Eeyore, errm... on the bottom of the right leg."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id185.html
June 5, 2007
But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.
Smiling wanly, Mrs McCann looked down at the pyjamas in her lap and added: "These are virtually identical, but these are little bit smaller because they are Amelie's."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459927/Madeleine-Exhausted-McCanns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html
June 6, 2007
McCanns Appeal for Help in Germany
The McCanns hold up pyjamas similar to those their daughter was wearing the night she was abducted.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/mccanns-appeal-for-help-in-germany-madeleine-s-parents-deny-role-in-abduction-a-487079.html
June 7, 2007
The McCanns hold up a set of pyjamas similar to those worn by Madeleine.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-460119/Madeleine-There-way-involved-abduction-say-parents.html
September 6, 2007, at 3.00pm
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy
She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id192.html#sta6
September 19, 2007
But the McCanns say the fluids probably came from Madeleine's unwashed pyjamas and sandals which were carried in the boot when the family was moving apartments.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddys-mum-why-im-innocent-506983
April 8, 2008
Jane Tanner - Record Of Tape Recorded Interview
So I'd spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I'd seen.
01.04.52 4078 "Sorry, was that on the night that Madeleine had disappeared?"
Reply "That was at three o'clock in the morning after she'd disappeared, yeah".
4078 "So when you went into Gerry and Kate's apartment who else was there?"
Reply "I think there was Russ, I think Russell came with me and there was Sylvie who was the translator. I can't remember which, there was some, there was a PJ chap was sitting on the, by the table. And there was Gerry who was standing by the, the bedroom door".
4078 “And how was Gerry at that point?”
Reply “Oh he was just, well obviously, obviously distraught. And I think it was quite hard for me to be saying at that, you know, looking in his face and to be explaining what I’d seen, at that point was quite hard because, you know, Gerry was obviously standing there, I don’t know whether, and you sort of think ‘Oh God, here’s me, if I’d tried to stop them this wouldn’t have happened’ sort of thing.
I think, just going back a bit, over again, this is something, I think when I realised the true significance of what I’d seen as well was almost like a couple of days afterwards when, erm, erm, I was talking to Fi about the pyjamas, because again it seems madness now why I hadn’t asked Kate and Gerry before this what the pyjamas were like, but it’s all sort of rha rha, you know, so I didn’t know what, what Madeleine’s pyjamas were before this. And I’d actually read in a paper that they were white, it was in the Telegraph, I think it was the day afterwards Dianne had bought a Telegraph paper and in there it was saying she was wearing plain white pyjamas, so I think when I read that I almost thought ‘Oh maybe I have got it wrong’, you know, because I’d, out of everything, I thought ‘Oh they weren’t just plain white’, I thought they had got some sort of thing on it. So I think it might have actually been the next morning, which would probably be the Saturday morning, I think I said something to, about oh, to Fi ‘Oh what were the pyjamas like’ and she actually described the pyjamas and she sort of said ‘Oh no that is what they were like’. And that was, I think that was almost the moment when I couldn’t convince myself anymore that it wasn’t that, you know.
“With, with a turn up, and the turn up I mean I can’t stress this enough, that is the bit that makes me think so much that it is the same pyjamas.”
“Okay, so you think it was pink but you accept that it may not have been, the colour may have been distorted or it might have been such the power of suggestion I suppose.”
Jane Tanner: “That could have been that for me because the pyjamas I really tried to, it was in the interview the next day when they really pushed me you know I think you call it cognitive interview or whatever, really pushed me to get an idea of you know more details about the person and it was then that you know sort of the description of the pyjamas was more in my head than I’d initial, it was mainly the feet as an initial thing.”
“Yes. I think the point they’re trying to make is that you had no knowledge of what Madeleine was supposed to have been wearing when you gave that description”?
Reply “No I think, no because when, I wasn’t there at the table when Kate gave a you know, I think Kate gave everybody else, when she came, you know when everyone was looking for her, they had a description of what to look for but I wasn’t, I was in the room at that point so no I definitely didn’t know what she’d, and I’d never seen her in pyjamas, I’ve never seen Madeleine in pyjamas at home and or anywhere so”.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm
April 11, 2008
RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW DAVID PAYNE
you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour
And really didn’t think twice about it at the time and that’s why it wasn’t mentioned then. But she [Jane Tanner] definitely mentioned it to me you know after Madeleine had been abducted and you know on the, the following day before she’d actually mentioned it to Kate and there was a, a newspaper report, I think it was in the Telegraph err certainly one of the newspapers anyway, that was sort of describing err Madeleine’s pyjamas and, and err Jane said that’s not right, how did they get that, well she said you know, that in, I don’t know how they get that information anyway, my recollections were this was what she was wearing and described it you know differently you know to what the, the, the press had, and that was before she’d even seen Kate so you know, the strength of that argument is just absolutely overwhelming, you know given the time frame err you know of when Madeleine must have gone, gone, that you know and for her to have described in detail the pull ups at the bottom of the pyjamas err you know the colours, you know and the timing is just, you know well, so.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
April 30, 2008
Mrs McCann stayed in a bedroom praying. She said: It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I just thought she’s going to be freezing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1908158/Madeleine-McCann-left-alone-as-last-minute-decision.html
2009 and 2010
No pyjamas?
May 7, 2011
In extracts printed by The Sun, she tells of how windy it was, and says she kept imagining how cold Madeleine would be in her short-sleeved Eeyore pyjamas, and wishing she’d had her warmer Barbie pyjamas on.
http://dailym.ai/iWtyc1
May 8, 2011
I ran out into the car park of our holiday apartment, flying from end to end, yelling desperately: 'Madeleine! Madeleine!' It was so cold and so windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/08/madeleine-maccann-mother-suicidal-thoughts
May 8, 2011
As everyone started to search she ran into the car park shouting Madeleine’s name. She added: “It was so cold and windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be. Fear was shearing through my body.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-little-brother-promises-127306
May 9, 2011
Her final few minutes with Madeleine are forever etched in her memory.
Madeleine, in her Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas, nuzzling her toy Cuddle Cat beneath a ‘princess’ blanket ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1384977/Kate-McCanns-haunting-account-makes-rue-day-I-doubted-them.html
May 9, 2011
Published in The Sun
Although Jane had never seen or known about Madeleine's Eeyore pyjamas, her description of this child's night clothes matched Madeleine's almost exactly.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/SUN1_09_05_2011.htm
May 12, 2011
In book Madeleine by Kate McCann.
"The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primaria were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their skepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing".
"(…remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts.
May 16, 2011
The only other unexplained detail I remember from that morning was a large, brown stain I noticed on Madeleine's pink Eeyore pyjama top. It looked like a tea stain.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/a-familys-never-ending-ordeal/story-e6frg6z6-1226056322286
May 17, 2011
I didn't think of it at the time but the day Madeleine disappeared I noticed what I thought was a tea stain on her Disney pyjama top,' she says. 'I washed it without thinking but looking back, the children hadn’t drunk any tea that day and I can't remember her mentioning that she'd spilt anything.'
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/WOMAN_17_05_2011.htm
June 21, 2011
Interview McCanns in the Netherlands
At the 1:19 mark
Question: He kept the child in his arms?
Kate McCann answers: He was carrying the child [Gerry tries to interrupt] across his arms, like this. You would think he might carry the child ... the shoulder, but he was carrying the child like this.
Gerry McCann: Jane didn’t know what Madeleine was wearing ...
She also described the pyjamas, ... remarkably similar... and she didn’t know that, and another really key thing is, later on that evening, probably about forty minutes later, an Irish family saw a man and they gave an almost identical description of the man and the child.
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2011/exclusief-interview-met-kate-mccann
March 25, 2012
ANOTHER STORY
By Dr Martin Roberts
But whoever it was that members of the Smith family actually saw being carried, it could not have been Madeleine McCann in her Eeyore pyjamas. The child seen by Aoife Smith was said to have been wearing a long-sleeved top. If one is prepared to accept that Jane Tanner can discern the colour of a garment from some distance away, in the dark, when she cannot even see the item in question, then it is even more reasonable to accept the accuracy of Aoife Smith's close-up description.
August 23, 2012
'OUT, DAMN'D SPOT'
By Dr Martin Roberts
Kate's transient preoccupation with those Eeyore pyjamas may have been indicative of nothing more than a concern for 'keeping up appearances,
And then, irony of ironies, with Kate having made a special point of washing out a seemingly innocuous stain, the pyjamas are abducted, never to be seen again.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id400.html
May 24, 2013
Madeleine was wearing pink pyjamas, with an Eeyore motif, on the night she was taken from apartment 5a on the ground floor of the Waterside Gardens at the Ocean Club complex.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330660/Madeleine-McCann-Was-Maddie-snatched-monster-killed-little-lookalike-British-detectives-uncover-dramatic-new-lead--Portuguese-refusing-investigate.html
July 8, 2013
By Dr Martin Roberts
NO WAY OUT
He could not, therefore did not, exit the apartment with a child in his arms in the two or three minutes between Gerry McCann's last 'check' on the children and Jane Tanner's 'sighting'. Nor did he leave the apartment afterwards, carrying Madeleine past the Smiths. The child they witnessed was wearing the wrong pyjamas. And since the intending abductor was not discovered inside the apartment subsequently then he was not there at all.
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t23969-dr-martin-roberts-no-way-out-with-thanks-to-mccannfilescom
October 15, 2013
'Revelation moment': Police revealed a major breakthrough when a British father came forward to reveal he was the man who for six years had been considered the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case.
Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html
October 15, 2013
We know the pyjamas their child was wearing… We are almost certain this [Tanner] sighting isn’t the abductor. - Detective Chief Inspector Redwood
http://www.thestar.ie/star/irish-couples-vital-clue-in-maddie-hunt-34798/
October 15, 2013
The potential prime suspect is described as white, in his 30s, of medium build and height, clean shaven with short brown hair. He was carrying a child aged three or four who had blonde hair and was wearing pyjamas similar to Madeleine’s.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/436799/MADDIE-Are-police-closer-to-breakthrough-after-overwhelming-response-to-Crimewatch
November 15 2013 Final Comment
The McCanns altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
from 6:36: watch "Smith" man carrying a child horizontally across his arms.
Did the McCanns also alter the pyjamas style so as to discredit the Smith sighting (girl in white, long-sleeved, pyjamas) as soon as they became aware of Jane Tanner’s sighting early morning May 4, after they had already texted and phoned family and friends.
Gerry knew that he was seen by the Smith family.
Jane, unknowingly at that time, gave Gerry McCann a perfect alibi. Just one small problem, the pyjamas.
If not, then who is that girl in white long-sleeved pyjamas in BBC1 documentary, October 14, 2013?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)
Not the "Tanner" pyjamas, then also not the "Eeyore’s"?
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8428/7bs2.jpg
http://twitpic.com/7hz4rr
Answers on a postcard please.
Compiled by Maren, The Netherlands
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